Sure. So can Atheists deal with the illogical people who argue against flying spaghetti monsters and tea pots around Mars who rank among their numbers?
If there is anyone using FSM or The Great Tea Pot as more than a rhetorical device, you have my support 100% ... they are stupid beliefs - but I think that's their point. (The Great Tea Pot does not orbit Mars, however. But I'll support you in any argument against the Great Tea Pot, even heretical splinter groups.)
Those who believe that existence is magical and deny causation while simultaneously leaning on science to prove things that are not the stuff of science?
Yep, with you against Existential Magicalists and Magical Existentialists and Causal Denialists and Causational Deniers and any combination of those. I'm not completely sure why it's my responsibility though. These don't appear to be non-theist positions to me. It's because we are taking up a common cause against the misuse of science, right?
Or can you whittle out those among Atheists who argue that the God of the Old Testament is a big evil meany, but at the same time deny objective moral values exist?
Not "or", "and". Let's do it all. Can I just clarify our objective here though. We should be aiming, very tightly on atheists (no capitalisation please, unless we are talking about someone who follows the teachings of Athe, which would exclude me) "who argue that the god of the Old Testament is
objectively a big evil meany, but at the same time deny objective moral values exist". I could not, with good conscience, take up a sword against a fellow traveller who argued that "in a hypothetical situation characterised by the actual existence of objective moral values and actual existence of the god of the Old Testament, the god of the Old Testament would be, actually and
objectively, a big evil meany"
Whew! I am glad that's over with.... ![Roll Eyes ::)](https://www.reasonablefaith.org/forums/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif)
Me too. Let's give everyone some good new-fashioned scientific lurnin'.